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I barely even knew what that meant, and he was vegan and so encouraging and open about it," she told The Hook Up. While Bonnie acknowledges she wasn't totally open to becoming a vegan at the beginning of her relationship, she realised it wasn't that hard after all. I thought I knew everything and was ignorant to other people's ways of eating," she said.
I plucked a cherry tomato off this bush I was growing and had a really hippy moment and thought, "Oh my God. That came from the soil! What if I just ate everything from the soil?! He's been vegan ever since, and admits that in an ideal world, he would only date vegans as it's just a lot easier. We got a LOT of texts and calls about whether vegans can swallow semen, and from what I can work out, because humans can give consent for this to happen [unlike animals], cum is vegan friendly!
Clare Mann is a vegan psychologist and works with people who might be struggling being vegan in a non-vegan world. All the things that many people might like to take them on a date to," Clare told The Hook Up. So while it might sound like a challenge for vegans to date non-vegans, Clare explained that at the end of the day, it's all about understanding and compassion.
So a lot of people don't communicate, they hide these things to themselves, they're afraid to have a conversation and self-conscious if someone is going to criticise or jump to conclusions. Try to Download directly Space to play or pause, M to mute, left and right arrows to seek, up and down arrows for volume. All Programs People Schedule. By the way, how is hunting and or slaughter cruel in relation to what always happens according to the unspeakable cruelities provided by our Earth Mother when creatures come to be eaten?
Have you ever watched wolves feed on an elk? I did not say, kill and feed on, btw. That would be something else entirely from what they actually do. Well, I have made some changes, but I still eat pork, steak, skinless chicken and fish. Now I drink rooibos tea. Also, I stopped buying butter in favor of margarine. Garlic smothered in olive oil is good for you, as is a glass of red wine.
Anyone who talks about paleo and about eating bacon is a worthless poser. Eat sausage or hot dogs? They have widely seperated cerebral hemispheres in their skulls. You can put a large caliber bullet thru both brain-lobes and the thing might still swim away as if nothing much has happened. Titus Pullo advising his friend on what attracts a woman: After all, one common beta mistake is to cater to her wants and needs, and this is a tough habit to break. How do you guys date models? I mean that literally: Dating a vegetarian girl sets up a great dynamic: Universe in having been a lacto-ovo vegetarian for 2 years, and he beat a lot of famous BBers at that contest too, like Frank Zane and Reg Park.
Go invent some other macho activity to get a Test rust. Heck, maybe you all know factory farming is a terrible practice, and this is your response. It is a common response, you can find it in the Bible:. Look up how your food comes to you before you eat it, and make your own choices. The dude literally ate dozens of eggs and drank gallons of milk a day. If you think that the average vegetarian turd walking the streets can look like Bill Pearl without such extreme measures and steroids you are a gigantic moron. Some people are dead set on thinking themselves into unhappiness.
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You can train yourself out of this however, I know this also. Was she crazy good in the sack? I find that hard to believe; sanctimoniousness and good sex seldom go together. We have all seen those African documentaries where the lions have run down the impala and are tucking in with relish, organs being ripped out while the thing is still kicking. All animals in the wild face the same fate that our domestic farm ones do — they are going to end up on dinner plate.
If I was a critter I would go for a few guaranteed years on a farm and a quick clean death at the end rather than living in constant fear and then actually being brought down by a predator. Calorie production by men and women. Kaplan, Hill, Lancaster, and Hurtado argued that a significant aspect of hominid evolution giving rise to long life spans, prolonged investment in juveniles, and large brain size is that, compared to our nearest relatives, humans consume high-quality but difficult to extract resources such as animal protein.
Both men and women contribute substantially to their own subsistence. In the majority of hunter-gatherer populations studied to date, however, the average male adult generates more calories than he consumes—mostly through hunting. These food resources yield benefits for reproductive women and juveniles by providing extra calories and macronutrients such as protein. In Kaplan et al. Women in traditional societies can and do turn the surplus of calories generated by men into production of offspring and thereby reproductively benefit from this surplus generated through male hunting Marlowe, In foraging populations, however, the degree to which women and juveniles benefit from male hunting varies.
Indeed, in many groups that particularly rely on gathered as opposed to hunted foods, women generate more calories than do men Kaplan et al. The variation partly depends on ecological factors e. Women can generate dietary resources at a greater rate in some environments than in others even while caring directly for offspring, e.
Women may still have benefited from choosing men with the ability to produce resources, but these advantages were probably smaller when the diet did not consist of large shares of meat. Due to varying relative benefits from mate preferences for specific attributes such as access to resources, men and women may have been selected to vary the emphasis they placed on particular mate preferences as a function of the ecological factors associated with the degree of female participation in food production.
When men generate a smaller surplus in calories, women may place less emphasis on male resource acquisition abilities. Hence, the sex difference in preference for a mate with high access to resources may be muted in circumstances in which women participate more heavily in direct production see also Schmitt, Whenwomen are not involved in direct food production, theirwork may focus more on domestic tasks such as food preparation. One might also expect, then, that when women do not contribute as much to subsistence, they place fewer demands on a mate to help in these other domains.
Moreover, when women depend less on male contributions, they may be more willing to engage in extramarital relations or, relatedly, be less concerned about exhibiting restrictive sexual attitudes to their mates e. By contrast, in conditions in which men contribute fewer nutritional benefits to women and offspring, an evoked culture perspective might predict that women choose men on the basis of desirable characteristics other than ability to provision e.
Now, I know you are making shit up, Roissy. I also dated a vegan for a while and believe it ruined the relationship. I know if I was able to eat meat, I would try to get free-range organic beef if possible. Less cruelty, purer and healthier. I think everyone should choose, through trial and error, the best diet for their own bodies. And then leave everyone else alone about it. If it was intended to be taken seriously, it failed. Heterosexual vegetarian men are so rare in the state of nature that few women have experience dealing with one — another reflection on your world.
Thank goodness you hate vegetarians. Suck it up dude. I think your crying about this is a sign that you have a serious underlying mental problem. Every human being develops omnivorous dention. About a third of adult teeth are incisors. For incising meat, not legumes. The gut that real humans have is well equipped with meat digesting enzymes. Meat is digested much quicker and more efficiently than vegatation in a human gut. Anyone who says they cannot digest any meat is therefore an impostor — not a human being at all. Someone take anyway its keyboard and delete its false IDs from the scrolls….
No point in mentally scaling that mountain of shit. Best to go around that one. To them, attention equals worth. Always fleeting, so on to something else. The entire environmental movement is a prime example. Save the fucking planet — instant self-worth. This veggie thing is bullshit anyway. But if we all went Ray Charles, vegetarians, Starbucks coffee drinkers and LV handbags would disappear entirely. Incidentally, Starbucks actually moved to remove the logo and serve coffee in plain cups same coffee, no logos — a cost-saving measure and their clientele puked all over it.
Work with limiting and expanding opportunities in order to manipulate — works better than shaming. If the premise is that the sexual attractiveness of the socially proofed rogue comes from the chances are more likely that his sperm will sire males who are also sexually successful with many women, then it follows that part of the vibe that is attractive is that the man is NOT purity conscious.
He is a wife fucker. A man who is attractive to all women but who insists on lifetime monogamy with a virgin may as well be beta, as far as spreading his genes go. The attractiveness of the rogue is that he will spread seed far and wide. Spreading seed with only virgins would limit the field. The sexual strategy that includes the desire for purity is that of the family man who wants to focus resources. The provider strategy is distinct from rogue strategy, and both push different sexual attractiveness triggers.
Women who step out and fuck around do so with rogues. Women who settle down do so with providers. Game is about pushing the sexual buttons that a rogue pushes. Therefore if you project that you have a disgust for sexual impurity, you are not pushing the rogue buttons. Going dutch will lead the girl to step out. Just play the game as given. Push the buttons that lead to getting the responses you want. If you want her attached to you, make her feel dependent. Too true, all around bro.
The sanctimonious preachy-ness of veggie girls spreads to all aspects of life. Give me a bodacious carnivore any day. BTW, Target is awesome as well. Does anyone else here know why there are so many hotties at Target? A man dating a sexually well practiced woman will have an edge if he can not only push the rogue buttons, but also the provider buttons. So while the gene that codes for an enhanced and generalized sense of disgust towards impurity to include social and sexual concepts of purity may give a statistical edge in choosing a mate more LIKELY to remain pair bonded, as far as the seduction process goes, it gets in your way.
The genes are correlated now. And if you let your water run they will charge you money for it. Someone please explain to me how flushing the toilet does anything negative for the environment, assuming you do dispose of your human waste that way and not by shitting on the sidewalk. Seriously, if I flush my toilet 75 times, how does that harm the environment? Water comes out the tap and down the drain and back to where it came from, right? And then tirade about it in cunty books and articles?
You are aligned with the wrong side on this one. Very few men pedestalize purity to the extreme you suggest. The vast majority of men will gladly bang sluts all day long, yet understand that they are not the women you bring home to momma. And as far as partner count is concerned… has it never crossed your mind that a girl sucking 1 dick a thousand times, has the same amount of experience as a girl suck dicks 1 time??
Unfortunately, you keep buying the liberal line that the only way for a woman to be good in bed is to get around alot. If some of my ideas remind you of some of their ideas, it makes no difference to my ideas. Questions only to be answered directly, and not with blowing out puff clouds of dissimulating snark:. Can it affect seduction in a positive way? If so, is it likely that being perceived as someone who is disgusted by the impure would be perceived as being less interested in impregnating many women?
Evil, I forget which person on this board posted that he only wants to date virgins who want to mate for life with him. There are more than a few posters here who I consider to have a pathological interest in purity. I am aware of the negative impacts of sluttery and not incaustious, but seem less concerned with it than many. From my view there is a clear disadvantage to being neurotic about it — and many here are pro neuroticism.
That you and feminists are in agreement on this should give you pause. Apparently it does not.
Show me the feminist who argues that women have dual sexual attractiveness triggers, and how these relate to the gene for social and sexual purity? Also, I recommend women of Indian heritage to the readership. Slenderness and femininity is prized in their culture. Religious is the perfect word to describe this movement.
Vegetarianism is, in many ways, based off blind faith. It completely flies in the face of science, as the studies upon which the low-fat, high carb diet was based off of are questionable at best. The main one that started this whole ridiculous movement…. There was a LOT of data manipulation ie. The smug vegetarians have a very difficult time accepting that countries like France and Italy have high levels of fat obtained from animal products in their diet, but low diabetes, obesity and heart-disease rates.
These fats yes, I am talking about the saturated kind are essential in vitamin absorption and for repair of artery walls. But quality is significant component of this type of social proof. Walking in a place with 2 hotties on your arm, will get you more interest than being the lone male with a van load of average chicks.
Ever heard of hypochlorhydria? Western vegetarians can be real fanatics. Religious girls from the trailer park should also work. Now that I have taken the red pill, should I choose to marry, I will try to push as many of these buttons as possible. So does the Roissy method of attraction focus on just 1, or 1 and 2? As has been discussed here at the Chateau ad infinitum, game incorporates all 4 buttons. I would not draw too many conclusion from extreme ends of the bell curve.
Male sexuality in the species is meant to float some with some extreme tastes to create some mobility for adaptation. However most of them are destined to fail. Though on a more common subject, virgins are the standard for high investment relationships. Though, as I have said before, it does somewhat conflict with sexual desire. I believe sluts are sexier, but with one little caveat; we also hate them.
Sluts are sexually stimulating, but once a man has done his thing its adaptive to have disgust for her after as a protection against investing in such an unreliable creature. Its pretty obvious in porn. Sexual pleasure is up since its basically a sperm war. Yet, the gang that banged her will have little regard for her as a serious mate, and may even have hatred which can also become a pathology we see when men kill prostitutes. Its anti-cuckold defense gone over board.
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If you want marriage, best way to go is a virgin. If its a little too tame sexually, and you want to jump start your woody, imagine her as being a little slutty in your head and how much someone else would like to bang her. Your package will more than likely respond to the sexual threat you imagine in your head. I dated a vegetarian girl for a few weeks and upon our first disrobing, I was aghast to note she had an abundance of cellulite. Never before have I felt so cheated. But it should be obvious that all other variables are unlikely to be equal.
You have made my point for me — when there is over emphasis on purity, a multivariable event is viewed as a monovariable event. I am not sure why vegetarian women are such a problem unless you are looking a life style convenience over the very long term. The general idea is to corrupt women to your way of thinking. I have always had far more influence on the diet.
If anything, breaking a vegetarian would be an excellent metric on how well you can put on the saddle in general. The real problem is when she is able to project her influence and she will consider you a wee little man for giving in.
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If you eat meat and stop doing it for her, I cannot think of anything more damaging to your cause. But no one has addressed my main point. My point in this thread is a mans level of regard for purity and how it relates to a mans seductive ability and which attractiveness buttons he will push. My point is game related, not marriage hunting related.
My point is that it is more attractive to either be inclined to or to mimic the bohemian style of regarding sex. It can take time and patience to break a woman of a food taboo. It took over a year before I got a Muslim girl to cook me my pork chops. I put it this way. You take a vegetarian to a restaurant.
They can probably find something to eat, maybe cheesy pasta or something. That said, a vegetarian girl would have to be really amazing for it to be anything really long term. You are using a fallacious argument by viewing the number of variables without regards to their strength. It is also a fallacy to view virginity as a simple impulse. Its the result of a vast complex of tendencies. Its all really academic, and counting the number and size of the marbles cannot really decide until we do as Galileo did with stones.
The actual data supports the position that opposes you. Virgins are more loyal. Chi — is your sole criteria for marriage how faithful the girl will be? If so, your monovariable should be your prime and only concern. If you are also interested in having a super high sex drive, and fun loving risk taking attitude, you will have to balance that AGAINST fidelity. Seldom is a man solely interested in the type of traits that keep a girl faithful.
Those that are tend to base their relationships on companionship. On the other point, game is about getting what you want. The essence of failure is becoming a beta which is essentially begging for female attention by acting like a slave. If you reject women for not being pure enough, this can come off as a powerful disqualification let alone aloofness. I know this from personal experience. I once told a girl I wanted to be a monk and had no interest in sex. I was just messing with her but she believed it and wanted to educate me.
Then I also had a religious epiphany some years later. If you want a smoking hot highly sociable girl with a volcanic sex drive who orgasms while giving head for marriage, and you insist on virginity, have supernatural powers if you want to locate her on planet earth. Virginity is rare and comes with reasons for it. Not all the reasons have to do with self restraint. People keep coming back to mate bonds because purity is something men surely care about, but on a long term, not short term basis.
Evil, regardless of seeking short or long term relationships, an aversion for impurity will affect which attractiveness buttons you are capable of pushing, as I already clearly explained. A bohemian attitude is the most seductive to women, all around. It goes both ways and is flexible. The purity obsessed tend to be considered squares or players, with not enough middle ground to have real mystery.
A man wants to be viewed as a romantic libertine who might — just might — be tameable. Another reason why women tend to not have the WIL experience with the purity obsessed is that every woman wants to have her inner whore appreciated. Guys who believe in the concept of purity will neglect to treat his woman like a little slutty bitch. They will want to consider her trustworthy, which also deadens the WIL experience.
Guys who want purity are like women who want betas. Impossible to please, because as soon as you give them what they want, it all falls apart into dissatisfaction. The hindrance, as I said, was to pushing all attractiveness triggers. To getting the WIL experience from any woman. Like I said before, a girl can suck 1 dick times, or dicks 1 time.
Not according to how many on this blog use term. To hear some guys talk, a girl who has had five previous partners, most of whom were romantic, would be an immoderate girl not fit for romance. Do you not think that such men exist? Do you not see them on this blog? Do you not find they such men often appear sexually illiterate — or at minimum not up to snuff in the sexual marketplace of competing cock?
Mark Sisson another Paleo author… even says you can eat bacon… http: Well, just because virginity is rare, in this culture, does not mean its not desirable. This is about all things being equal. Some girls are virgins by their lack of virtue in controlling their swine palates. A 10 who is a virgin, all things being equal, beats a 10 who is not.
A 10 who is a known slut might even see an 8 out pace her in marriages and LTRs. Who here, if they woke up married, would choose a slutty 10 over a loyal 8? This might get complicated between 3 and 6 since this applies to areas of the scale where there is attraction. Nature is telling you that ugly women are a bad gamble in itself. The ultimate male fantasy is to turn a virginal 10 into his slut. Obviously this is just a goal post, but it identifies our sex differences. Certainly a 10 will almost always win in the field of short term sex.
Virginity, or female selective restraint is only a negotiating point when his resources are at stake.
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How women have sex is the male shit test. Men want women who are not investment worthy to be slutty and it even works in that direction since it results in further down grades. The worst thing a woman can do when she is in the margins is hop right into bed. Many men tend to prefer women a couple points higher to not be so since they begin to think of higher investment opportunities.
Though she may still survive the down grades if she is hot enough. If she has sex on the spot, he will take it; but, perhaps unknown to her, the circumstances may have changed considerably. Men will show a great deal of awe and respect to a man who beds hot strippers. If he starts to show investment behavior, this in proportion changes to ridicule. Buying her dinner raises an eye brow. Taking her to Paris brings a laugh. Marrying her is the ultimate knee slapper.
Its really just a rehash of high vs low investment strategy. So I am not saying anything new. Your argument only applies to low investment strategy. How much of one or the other tends to be a function of geography.
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The further one is to the equatorial zones, the more the culture seemed to slant towards low investment. Yes, I notice the inexperienced beta tools who comment on sluts. Now if a guy is looking for a non marital LTR with a 30 something then yes that's over the top. Liver will supply you with more iron and vitamin A than a tonne of spinach or broccoli.
Survival machines like Giant grizzly and polar bears that have varied diets and eat pretty much anything are known to make massive kills and leave giant carcasses in peoples driveways with only a liver and a heart missing, in many pack carnivores the liver is assumed to be eaten by the highest status or alpha animal. This is how they survive and get the best nutrients they need to survive, if it works for them…. I am viewing your position as underplaying this. In some societies its one and done. How well would 5 partners for a 21 year old hottie work in 19th century US? How well in modern day Pashtun country?
My sister is a vegetarian and I fucking hate her bullshit. Their new religion is a genocidal hatred of white people. All the examples you cite above have one thing in common — they elevate SWPLs above the common herd, in the minds of SWPLs at least, and what greater and final way to elevate yourself above the white the only group worthy of their hatred middle class and below than to make their very existence a sin to be eradicated?
Sadly, I must disagree with the premise of this article. The combination of tastebuds and olfactory receptors rarely lies, and they speak clearly: They have an almost grass-fed quality, and their flavours are surprisingly widespread depending on what particular kind of staple they favour in their skewed diets.
My favourite was a macadamia-flavoured food I caught many moons ago, I have yet to come across another food with the same balanced and not overpowering nutty flavour.
In high school we referred to them as the Ittly Bitty Titty Committee, the girls with small breasts all ran around in small packs with each other, big breasted girls ran in ones and twos because they were BUSY with their boyfriends. Breaking vegetarians is actually a rather entertaining sport though.
They typically offer to start with seafood again right on the spot. I did find it amusing how something like Sloppy Joes are the thing that pushes them completely back to real food far more often than things like steak. Oh, and there was actually an article that found that bacon was the leading thing that caused vegetarians to give it up. Some people have some fucked up definitions of what sex is. Fuck all the bullshit exceptions. I turn my faucet on and fill up a gallon container of said water. Nature has been kind to pretty white ladies.
If your city is getting its water from an overtaxed source such as a drying aquifer or lake, and the city is near the coast and does not treat and re-use the sewage water, then water use would obviously be a concern. And some people have a gene that makes them view this issue as a moral concern. You can call it the purity gene.
The gene takes the primitive reaction of disgust for foul impure food and enhances that emotional response to embrace other facets of life, such as sexuality, and makes people FEEL that socio-sexuality is a moral concern. It has benefits as well as costs. Being innately predisposed to viewing socio-sexuality as a moral issue, as opposed to the free loving style of romance practiced by bohemians, carries with it the cost of a restricted set of sexual strategies the man can persue. And from the point of view of the girls, who are attracted to both the provider and the rogue, the purity gene will restrict the mans ability to broadcast romantic interest.
This is a detriment to seduction. The emotional response of viewing sexuality as a strong deeply felt moral issue, girls SHOULD not be slutty while not without value, carries socio-sexual costs as it directly alters personal socio-sexual values. Your world is not necessarily the real world. It might be a large segment of the Western world. What we do see across the board is the female sexual fidelity, along with behavior that implies it, tending to have value, especially in investment minded males.
Even if virginity is not available , the fewer the better. Basically the only thing men tend not to like about inexperienced women is the perceived difficulty in getting easy sex for men looking to hook up. You are not entirely wrong that I am speaking in general as well. Many women find this confusing, so I am being rather fundamental. It seems to be you are trying to reason with hardons in accordance with feminist thought. How do men answer? Some just go into low investment mode and enjoy the sluts with little investment.
Others go through great lengths to find someone they think is more likely to be loyal. Some just give up. Other men consciously or unconsciously spend less time trying to be appealing themselves. Women of lower quality get the same. Right and wrong is universally right and wrong. The language of describing sluts — dirty used up sluts with floppy vag lips and gaping hoes — is felt as a fact, not as the viewpoint of a sexual style that the person is born into.
If you are studying game, you need to know your style, your character, and how to use it. Consider the strengths and weaknesses of your competitors. The hipster and the square use different approaches. But game is about altering habits and viewpoints, about trying new things, about seeing what effects you get from pushing what buttons. The bohemian gets to enjoy serial monogamy and happily falls in and out of love easily — never expecting nor wanting things to last forever.
He can easily appreciate an experienced woman, and bond with her, letting the seasons of love come and go. The square gets to create a more rigid structure of rules and regulations, and gets to work with others to create a socially controlled situation that is to his benefit. Nowadays the square is at a disadvantage. This is the time of the bohemian.
Any water used by a human is a waste or precious resources unworthy of our use. Why does it matter what I choose to eat? Do you also care about what brand of toilet paper I buy? Honestly, every person I ever met who was a vegetarian had serious issues. They think that they can sneer at what everybody else is eating like they are superior. In fact, they actually have an eating disorder and use vegetarianism as a cover. The most annoying thing about vegetarians and vegans is when you invite them to supper and they start asking questions about what is in the food.
Vegetarians think they have a license to be rude just because they are vegetarians. They only thing more annoying and useless than a vegetarian is a lesbian. When the ambulance arrived at their home in Saint-Maulvis, a small village km north of Paris, the baby was already dead. The ambulance workers called the police because the child was pale and thin, weighing 5. They distrust traditional medicine and prefer to treat their children using their own methods, in accordance with advice from books. This is coming from a male vegetarian who gets plenty of plant protein and works out 5- 6 days a week and has great skin complexion and the face of a 25 year old.
Actually, I have turned the tables on nagging women who try to brainwash me into consuming soy containing soy products such as tofu and soy milk. I said, WTF, could it be the feminazi establishment poisoning the food men consume??? I have never liked margarine, and do certainly consume my share of meat be it lamb, pork, beef, and on from time to time certain organ meats that WASPS no longer eat, but do the libido good……..
I remember the first time I went to Argentina and Brasil, I was almost crying at the sight of those huge slabs of meat, chorizos, etc etc…meat nirvana or valhalla. Wow, what a nutter. I take it she also went outside to poop on the grass? Visit the Goodbye, America photojournal website.